Thus another great victory has been won for “rationalism” and “free thought”. Our resident Bible scholar Erin Moon offers a gentle rebuke at the end of every episode. I would suggest the following emendation to your translation of Voltaire. There is evidence that this idea was beginning to be applied to some of the early Christian writings as well, with references to four definitive gospels being made by Irenaeus in the mid second century and a reference to interpretation of the letters of Paul alongside “the rest of the Scriptures” being made as early as c. 120 AD (see 2Peter 3:16). The Jews did this to the books of Enoch, despite the NT clearly referencing it, and the Septuagint, which we used for 1500 years until Luther decided to toss it, and several NT books because they contained doctrines he didn’t like. Constantine and the Week The Witty Invention that Changed Times and Laws. The irony of this meme urging readers “Don’t just believe me. It’s based on a false assumption because you don’t know the relevant texts well enough and you have no understanding of the linguistics and its context. Of course, thinking something is true doesn't mean that it is true. He was conferred the title of ‘Great’ for playing a crucial role in the advancement of the Christian religion and is remembered as Constantine The Great. There were plenty of Pre-Nicene references to Jesus being Divine, and even already debate about “Modalism”. Am I the only real Catholic totally embarrassed from the recent “coronation” He lists the works which are generally “acknowledged” (Church History, 3.25.1), including the four canonical gospels, Acts, the Epistles of Paul, 1 John, 1 Peter and the Apocalypse of John/”Revelation” (though he says this is still disputed by some). he did not change the words but what books were let in and out. First, if a work is false, it should be clearly false enough that the early church wouldn’t burn it. Following is a portion of Pliny’s letter… It is very important to clarify exactly what role the Emperor Constantine played in the Council of Nicea, what the purpose for the council was, what happened at Nicea, and briefly how the canon—the Bible as we know it—was formed. Constantine called a meeting of Christian bishops, the Council of Nicea, to settle the dispute. Born in Naissus, Dacia Mediterranea (now Niš, Serbia), he was the son of Flavius Constantius, an Illyrian army officer who became one of the four emperors of the Tetrarchy. No anti-Christian snippet or meme seems to be able to get by this group without it being posted as factual, without any hint of checking its claims. I am wondering how you can be so confident of the effect of something that didn’t happen? In 367 Athanasius wrote his 39th Festal Letter in which he laid out the current twenty-seven books of the New Testament – the first time this canon had been definitively stated by any churchman. It seems the “Philosophical Atheism” group on Facebook is going to be the New Atheist bad history gift that just keeps on giving. Most people either try to determine what is true and follow it, or become enamored with an ideology and interpret everything as if it proved the ideology is true. Jesus was most probably a real person, but deeds attributed to him (miracles) are most likely recycled, misinterpreted or simply made up. Constantine I, one of the most significant emperors of Rome, was born in 274 AD. a tinfoil hatter …. Constantine’s act of “calling himself a Christian and pouring in that flood of wealth and power on the church,” John Wesley charged in 1787, “was productive of more evil to the church than all the ten persecutions put together.” Judging by Constantine’s Bible, David L. Dungan might be sympathetic to that claim. he did not change the words but what books were let in and out. There is no reason to think it didn’t happen. an asscrank …. Constantine I - Constantine I - Commitment to Christianity: Shortly after the defeat of Maxentius, Constantine met Licinius at Mediolanum (modern Milan) to confirm a number of political and dynastic arrangements. The key scholarly studies on this can be found in A. J. Bellinzoni, The Sayings of Jesus in the Writings of Justin Martyr (Leiden, 1967) and Leslie L. Kline, “Harmonized Sayings of Jesus in the Pseudo-Clementine Homilies and Justin Martyr” in Zeitschrift fur die neutestamentlischen Wissenschaft 66, pp. The fact the NT doesn’t quote the apocrypha means nothing, since it didn’t quote Ruth and many of the minor prophets either. “gain support, stabilise the Empire, harness popularity” The Muratorian Canon document accepts twenty-three of the twenty-seven works which now make up the New Testament in the Bible. Constantine waited until death drew near to be baptized as a Christian. As he prayed (it was a little after noon), Constantine had an absorbing vision. Power corrupts and tends to draw people in who want the power without the ideology, and that is certainly true (I believe) of christianity through 17 centuries of "Christendom", but also true of socialism (e.g. We do – see above. After a falling out with his father, the local bishop, he travelled to Rome in around 139 AD. How the Biblical Canon Actually Developed After all, the meme’s bizarre grammar and reference to “Black Ankhwakening” – a crackpot Afrocentrist/Black Revisionist group – should have been a signal that this needed to be checked carefully. One of the most enduring myths today about the Council of Nicaea is that the council members voted on which books to include in the Bible. The story of early Christianity is a story of struggle, persecution and martyrdom, often at the hands of the ruling government. Constantine grew up under the influence of his father's ideas. “Combine this with Justin never directly quoting the Gospels and Luke being addressed to Theophilus, Bishop of Antioch, it becomes a little too suspicious to be a coincidence.”. How's the book going? iii, p. 29) and official to all presbyters sermonizing in the Roman Empire. Hi Tim, Fact Checking Memes? Thanks for your good work on this myth (and others too) about Christianity. iii, p. 29) and official to all presbyters sermonizing in the Roman Empire. Christianity “started out” as a Jewish sect focused on the idea that Jesus was the Messiah. Vermes says (p 229) “The westerners were not greatly interested in this Oriental row [about Arianism], which they probably did not fully understand.”. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. He is the author of all the teachings here, and all materials are available free of charge! Really? The novel essentially claims that Constantine convened a council at Nicea, created the New Testament, and had it canonized. This is crackpot stuff. Dodwell wrote in 1689, so you aren’t exactly referring to cutting edge scholarship. Again – what’s the problem, besides christianity not delivering any of them when it became state religion? Luke, for example, is written to Theophilus, Bishop of Antioch, who lived in the late 2nd century. In Czech Republic: Literature …and diplomat, Cyril (originally named Constantine), and his brother Methodius (see Saints Cyril and Methodius).The brothers translated the greater part of the Bible and the essential liturgical texts into what must have been a Slavonic literary language of Cyril’s devising, based on the Macedonian-Slavonic vernacular of his native Salonika… To me it looks like sound policy. François-Marie Arouet (1694–1778), better known by his nom-de-plume “Voltaire”, is still justly famous for his wit, his erudition and for his attacks on the established position of the Catholic Church in the France of his day and his advocacy of freedom of religion and the separation of Church and State. Prior to that time, it had been a fundamental Christian teaching: following the trail of a conspiracy that changed the world. Confira também os eBooks mais vendidos, lançamentos e livros digitais exclusivos. — Positief Atheïsme (@positiefatheism) March 9, 2018 Only gJohn is possibly early second century. C’est dommage que cette belle recette soit perdue de nos jours. A few of those who are devoted to the whole “Constantine created the Bible” myth have been forced to admit that there is no direct evidence linking the Council of Nicaea to the formation of the canon, so they cling to two pieces of evidence to try to salvage the idea. By the early second century Christianity had a similar problem, with a wide range of texts, letters and gospels in circulation all claiming to be authentic works of the first generation of Christians. Constantine was a Roman Emperor who lived from 274 to 337 A.D. Despite the fact that the process of establishing the canon of the Bible began long before Constantine was born and continued after he died and despite him playing no part in it at the Council of Nicaea or anywhere else, the myth continues. As has already been shown above, the canon was well on the way to being established well before this anyway. Do you, personally, look around at all the competing ideas and decide which one gives you the most power, regardless of whether it's true or nonsense, and then espouse that? The statement of the Council on this matter formed the Nicene Creed which became the basis of future Christological formulations (and the subject of later disputes on the matter). He then imposed much more uniformity, but you are overstating the diversity of forms in the early fourth century. There was no single, central “Church” which dictated these things at this early stage – each community operated in either relative isolation or intermittent communication with other communities and there were no standardised texts or a set list of which texts were authoritative and which were not at this very early stage of the Christian faith. By that stage a lot of the earlier variants were quite small and many others had ceased to exist. See “Dunning-Kruger Effect”. One of the most enduring myths today about the Council of Nicaea is that the council members voted on which books to include in the Bible. Indeed, without being aware of the scholarly consensus, it’s obvious the guy(s) did a fine job picking the stuff that comes closest to early christianity. It seems that the challenge posed by Marcion and other dissident groups caused the early Christians to determine which books were scriptural and which were not. Why would any non-ideologue care enough to get into politics. Why do you think most people in the world are, or have ever been, any different from you? In 325 AD Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea, the first empire-wide meeting of church leaders to discuss various controversies. His teachings made the Bible clear and easy to understand, and impacted millions of lives. None of the accounts of the Council from the time give so much as a hint about any such event, so Voltaire was clearly working from much later sources. Simple – because it’s anti-Christian. The first is a fifth century reference by Jerome in his Prologue to Judith where he notes the Old Testament book of Judith  was “found by the Nicene Council to have been counted among the number of the Sacred Scriptures”, which they try to argue means the Council did have some kind of discussion on the make up of the canon. Compre Christmas, Constantine, and the Bible (English Edition) de Day, Roger na Amazon.com.br. He is the author of all the teachings here, and all materials are available free of charge! It seems that it can be traced to a quip made by Voltaire in reference to a miracle story of no historical value. The Bible is sufficient, I’m sure, but by no means complete or inerrant. And those alleged nefarious purposes include everything from suddenly imposing a divine Jesus on Christianity (according to Dan Brown and his kooky source Holy Blood Holy Grail) to covering up Jesus’ New Age beliefs in reincarnation and Indian mysticism (according to that great scholar, Shirley MacLaine). Your email address will not be published. I don’t think it’s possible to have politics without ideologues. With his instructions fulfilled, Constantine then decreed that the New Testimonies would thereafter be called the "word of the Roman Savior God" (Life of Constantine, vol. He never mentions them. They have nothing to do with my article above. Your reference seems to be to this Council's endorsement of Athanasius' 39th Festal Letter and therefore his endorsement of the twenty-seven book New Testament canon. In fact, if he wanted to choose any sect to use to gain support, stabilise the Empire, harness popularity etc., then Christianity was about the worst one to choose in the early 300s. The much later idea of Petrine Supremacy was based on that line in gMatt, not the other way around. While historians are yet to have a solid evidence of Constantine's decision of choosing… Maxentius. Diocletian. I’ve never believed. The novel essentially claims that Constantine convened a council at Nicea, created the New Testament, and had it canonized. “This began to be alarming. Study Notes on Constantine 1. Donald the Clown would be a much less bad president were he more successful striving for these goals. Some online detective work by Roger Pearse and others has untangled the story of this anecdote, and it appears Voltaire was working from an appendix to the Jesuit scholar Philippe Labbé’s Sanctissima concilia (1671), which is the “supplement” mentioned in the quote above. I’m still an atheist. Prior to that time, it had been a fundamental Christian teaching: following the trail of a conspiracy that changed the world. He refers several times to “the memoirs (ἀπομνημονεύματα) of the apostles” and in one place makes it explicit that these are the gospels, referring to “the memoirs (ἀπομνημονεύματα again) which are also called gospels” (Apology LXVI.3). I don't disagree about the inherent dangers of power combined with religion, but even today we find negotiating a suitable and workable separation of church and state difficult. Constantine seems to have genuinely seen his against-the-odds victory at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge as a sign of divine favour by the Christian God and so felt obligated to respond with devotion. The King James Bible is written in English -- a language that only began to appear in A.D. 449 and was totally unlike the 1600's style of speaking the language. I quote from the book: “There were indeed references to reincarnation in the Old and New Testaments. In the Oration of Eusebius, XVIII, Eusebius relates how Constantine made the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to be deemed the place of Jesus' burial.Apparently, Eusebius is using faint praise or sly coded words (likely the latter) to reveal to the re ader not to trust Constantine because he claimed inspiration. Dungan, a student of early Christianity who has published studies (Eusebius, The Life of Constantine, chapter 62). At Nicea Constantine had 300 versions of the Bible burnt, thus > legitimising and patronizing only the Paulic heresy. This understanding led Marcion to put together a canon of Christian Scripture – the first of its kind – which excluded all of the Jewish Scriptures that make up the Old Testament and which included ten of the Epistles of Paul and only one of the gospels: the Gospel of Luke. Constantine, although held by many to be the first "Christian" Roman Emperor, was actually a sun-worshiper who was only baptized on his deathbed. People often wonder if the gospels were changed or corrupted, or even selected (in some back-room conspiracy) for inclusion in the Bible at this time. Wow, this is one of the dumbest memes I've ever seen. You just don’t know the material well enough to avoid basic errors like this one. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. FringePop321 Chances are good that you know there were other gospels—accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus—that never made it into the Bible. People who are already atheists latch on to silly ideas to justify to themselves. (Constantine actually resisted baptism until he was on his deathbed.) But this request (and another one made to Athanasius of Alexandria around the same time) simply reflects the fact that such an enterprise was so massively expensive that it took Imperial sponsorship to fund it and it seems to be one of many acts of patronage of Christianity by Constantine, not some attempt at establishing a canon of his own. It seems to me that even JM’s, no matter how silly their quack, should not have any problems with it. Why would any christian care even if it were true? Truth, or what is believed to be the truth, has always been paramount to most people. The bible is simply a collection of stories, man trying to make sense if the world. Guaranteed sale here. Constantine did change bible by not letting some books in an other books out. But when we do we find that they are the same. Probably to signify that they define hopefully core, binding doctrines. For the first time in nearly 300 … Just adding my 2c to say I can't wait for the book. That's all well and good, but when do you expect to wrap it all into a book? While the Catholics affirmed the NT canon in the 1546 as you mention, Wikipedia says "For the Orthodox, the recognition of these writings as authoritative was formalized in the Second Council of Trullan of 692" That seems a little strange to me as they didn't formally split until much later. According to many historians and the writer of the famous Da Vinci Code, the content of the present-day Bible that is known to people worldwide was actually put together by Constantine The Great, who was actually a pagan before this. Anglicans accept all 7 Ecumenical Councils and most other major denomination accept the first 4. What again could this astonishing thing be like which people were so anxious to contradict, that in doing so they did not mind contradicting themselves?”. “As for the “memoirs of the apostles” he mentions, well, we don’t really know what he meant by that”. Marcion was born around 100 AD in the city of Sinope on the southern coast of the Black Sea. The council condemned Arius and the Arian heresy that Christ is a created being and revised the creed to clarify the equality of God the Father and God the Son. …. One of the most beloved presidents of the USA, FDR, lied about his intentions regarding WW-2. This row actually had echoes down church history, because the filioque clause in the Creed which triggered the schism between Roman Catholic and orthodox churches in 1054, originally came from an attempt in 6th Century Spain to defend the Trinitarian position against Arianism, which had remained popular in Northern Europe. It contributes zilch to the crucial questions whether he served the interests of the Empire well and how christianity managed to become state religion. Much like many religious believers, ironically enough. To be clear, I don’t believe Constantine created the Bible, nor that Jesus is a mythical person, nor that it took decades after his death for people to believe in the resurrection. It rejected the truth of Gnosticism and featured the 4 Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, Paul’s thirteen epistles, John’s three epistles, and Jude, the Apocalypses of John and Peter. And I take it that since you didn’t respond directly to my theory about Luke being written in the 2nd century that you either agree with it or think it’s too stupid to even address? It developed from there and, yes, developed into many and various forms. Thanks Tim for some good information. While reading about the stuff on ‘Philosophical Atheism’, I was reminded of a thought by G.K.Chesterton when he wrote in ‘Orthodoxy’, So the central historical claim in the meme is total and complete garbage, but if that’s so, where did the myth come from? On October 28, 312, Constantine marched on Rome and met Maxentius at the Milvian Bridge. No. In 306 AD, Constantine (274 – 337 AD) became ruler of the Roman Empire. This happened later, but the communal nature of religion in the Roman world and the hierarchical nature of political power, patronage and sponsorship of religion made this fairly inevitable once Christianity got a certain momentum in the mid fourth century. “And I take it that since you didn’t respond directly to my theory about Luke being written in the 2nd century that you either agree with it or think it’s too stupid to even address?”. Constantine. Thanks for writing all that. Constantine was a Roman Emperor who lived from 274 to 337 A.D. I was reading the comments on this article, and as one of them mentions the confrontation between Emperor Theodosius and Ambrosius of Milan, I wanted to ask what you think about this episode? Exactly which “sacred Scriptures” is not specified, so it’s unknown if this refers to the Old Testament, some canon of the New Testament or both. And you can’t take the name “Theophilus” and just decide this means gLuke refers to a particular individual with that name just because you want to. It details that the canonical four gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – along with most of the other books found in the modern New Testament, as well as a couple which are not (the Wisdom of Solomon and the Apocalypse of Peter) are ‘scriptural’ and authoritative. This work became available in western Europe in the early seventeenth century and so seems to be where whole story came from. Perhaps whoever is responsible for posting this meme to the “Philosophical Atheism” group was living under a rock at the time, but it was one of the claims peddled by Dan Brown as historical that attracted criticism not just from Christians but also from scholars generally. Ignatius of Antioch quotes from gMatt, gLuke and Acts and he died c. 110 AD. Christmas on December 25 . Not long after Irenaeus’ defence of the four canonical gospels we get our first evidence of a defined list of which texts are scriptural. Constantine And The Bible. Interestingly, after two centuries of sceptical analysis, the overwhelming majority of historians, scholars and textual experts (Christian or otherwise) actually agree with Irenaeus and the consensus is that these four gospels definitely are the earliest of the accounts of Jesus’ life. a hack …. It took and melted a lot of elements of other faiths and philosophies. Neither the Catholic Church, nor Constantine changed the Bible. Justin clearly refers to material found in gMark, gLuke and gMatt, e.g. Despite this, the idea that the “Bible was created by a vote at the Council of Nicaea” is a pseudo historical myth that has been kicking around for centuries and forms part of several key pieces of pseudo scholarship and pop culture, which reveals the apparently “shocking” but actually rather obvious idea that the Bible was put together by a consensus of human beings. It seems the status of the Trullan Council or Quinisext Council was debated in the west and that, overall, it was not regarded as a true "Ecumenical Council" and therefore not binding on Christendom overall. The Great Myths 4: Constantine, Nicaea and the Bible, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window). If my hypothesis is correct, then the different councils might have had more impact on editing and compiling the synoptic Gospels than originally thought. First Council of Nicaea, the first ecumenical council of the Christian church, which took place in 325 in the ancient city of Nicaea (now Iznik, Turkey). And Polycarp of Smyrna quotes from all three of the synoptic gospels and he died c. 155 AD. Tim O’Neill’s forthright blog does a valuable job in keeping us all honest, and reminding us that historical evidence rarely behaves as one might want it to.” –, A. G. Leventis Professor of Greek Culture at the University of Cambridge, “A brilliantly erudite blog that stands sentinel against the wish-fulfilment and tendentiousness to which atheists, on occasion, can be no less prey than believers”, – Tom Holland, best-selling history writer, “Tim O’Neill’s blog is a fantastic place to turn for critical investigation of commonly-held assumptions about religion in the ancient world.”, – Professor James F. McGrath, Butler University, “Tim O’Neill is a known liar …. It isn’t. This was particularly the case in times of stress, so the idea that he saw something that he took as a vision and a sign from a particular god before a battle he probably didn't expect to win makes much more sense that the idea that he simply made the whole thing up for cynical purposes. Niceae or not, the adoption of Christianity by the Romans over time probably had a huge impact on how it developed. In a most providential twist of events, Roman Emperor Constantine a few years later, enlisted the help of Eusebius, to create 50 copies in codex form, of the entire Bible. — Positief Atheïsme (@positiefatheism) March 9, 2018 He constantly quotes the Old Testament and other New Testament books, but never quotes the Gospels. But when we do we find that they are the same. The idea that Constantine co-opted Christianity for his own nefarious political reasons is nonsense. Is it historical, or a Christian legend? But no, the form that won out in the end was not the product of “more literal interpreters” and that form of Christianity had become predominant long before they “got in bed with the Roman state”, which is why it was the form adopted by Constantine when he converted. I have no idea what any of that rant has to do with me or anything I’ve said. Any given isolated Christian community may well have known of some of them but not others. However, most Americans (especially atheist Americans), are utterly historically illiterate, and they base conclusions on their historical illiteracy. Majority or historical approval mean nothing to me: the way is narrow. Constantine claimed to have had a vision on the way to Rome, during the night before battle. We can actually test this claim by comparing the alterations of the texts from before Constantine (since we have them) with those coming later. This ninth century miracle story is only found in this one work and is not referenced in any earlier material on the Council of Nicaea. Marcion tried to get his radical reassessment of Christianity and his canon accepted by calling a council of the Christian community in Rome. “Getting history right is crucial, and noone – neither the religious nor the irreligious – should get a free ride when it comes to instrumentalising the past. I tend to agree with the Constantine hijacking idea, not necessarily as his deliberate intention, but simply because christianity, like any ideology, is safer when not allied with political power. What I mean is that they didn’t just pick them out, but also actively tampered with them. No modern scholar accepts a second century date for the gospels. Alexandria was a important melting pot in that. This is the basis of the claim that “Constantine and his bishops voted a bunch of works as the Word of God (325 AD)”. Alarmed at his success, other Christian leaders began to preach and write vigorously against Marcion’s ideas and it seems that his canon of eleven works inspired anti-Marcionite Christians to begin to define which texts were and were not Scriptural. It certainly formed a key plot element in the schlock pseudo historical thriller The Da Vinci Code (2003) and in its film adaptation in 2006. As mentioned above, it was Irenaeus who made the first know defence of the four canonical gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – as the oldest and only scriptural ones, and he did so at least partially on the grounds that these four had always been regarded as the earliest and most authoritative. “Again, weren’t the Gospels originally written in the 2nd century? The Fourth Crusade was with the instance of Innocent III along with other French (Constantine actually resisted baptism until he was on his deathbed.) They worship the Bible, and not the God who commissioned it. In the third chapter he claims that reincarnation was in the Bible but was later removed. Find her on Instagram. Pliny was a young lawyer and governor over the territory of Bithynia and Pontus, along the southern edge of the Black Sea where some in the Church had originally settled (1 Peter 1:1-2). Or do you decide on what to profess based on what you think is true? This is something I see over and over again with people who have great confidence in their private theories about fringe ideas despite not actually knowing what the hell they’re talking about. But if the name is all you have, then I won’t bother. Marcion decided that there were actually two Gods – the evil one who had misled the Jews and the good one revealed by Jesus. Those who doubt he saw some kind of vision and must have been lying also don't seem to realise that people in the ancient world were constantly on the lookout for signs and omens and so "saw" all kinds of things that they invested with divine significance. 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